Breeding to Outside Stallions

What Do You Look For?
What is important to you for an outside stallion to be considered for your mares? As someone that offers her quality stallions to the public, I rarely get requests, but I'm grateful for each one! I put high but fair prices on my stallions, so I figure if you can afford his stud fee, you're going to take good care of that foal. I like that it's a boost to the EV marketplace.

So, my factors for figuring stud fee are:
- Stats (usually x10 to get the fee)
- Rare color (+/- $5,000-$10,000)
- Conformation Score (+$5,000 if over 70)

Just a little curious what could make my stallions either more popular or what could fit the bill!

When I'm looking for an outside stallion I look for a confo higher than my mare's, low non-specialty stats, and then I consider what colors the foal could possibly have. I also try not to use stallions that already have more than 10 foals but sometimes I make an exception for a super high confo or to get a rare color. Also I rarely pay more than 10k for stud fee and I take excellent care of my horses, just saying.

What makes you put a limitation on the stud fee? With the heightened price of credits and other items via the market it seems like stallion fees should follow the trend, but I've kept them around the same as what they've always been - 10xstat

I look for stats, personally. Secondly color, i would sacrifice stats for a non-grey or non-dom grey (GG).

I'm yet to actually get into conformation breeding so that doesn't influence my decision. It's stats for me. I've spent anywhere from 500 to over 150k for a stud fee.

I don't care how high the overall stats are, I'm looking for low non-specialty stats.
I prefer conformation to be over 70, rare colors are a plus.
I will spend a good bit on stud fees if I find one that meets my qualifications.

Same! I'm more than willing to pay good money for the perfect stallion. I love a good show horse that makes me a lot of cash before breeding ;)

When I look for possible stallions the first thing I look for is his confo. If I have a mare with Poor hooves, the stallion should have Excellent or almost that hooves so that the foal will have good+ hooves. Next is his colour, I love colourful babies. Then his stats. Last is a stud fee, because if its the perfect stallion the only reason I wouldn't use him is if the stud fee is way out of my price range.

When I look for outside stallions I look for a few things
1. His generation. I like to keep my horse lines even, so I look for foundations for my foundations, second generations for my second gen, ect.
2. His stats. I want them to be appropriate for his age and generation.
3. The amount of times the stud has been bred, and how much that specific breeder breeds their studs. I don't breed to horses that have over five foals in their lifetime .
4. Public or Private studs. I only breed to private studs. I want my horses to be rare, not over breed, so the stud must be the same.
5. Color. I want pretty ponys, so color is something I look for. I am NOT going to make exceptions to any of other rules for color though.
6. Age. I want the stud to be 16 or older, at least.

I'm pretty willing to pay a hefty amount for the perfect stud. However, I can understand that people who do not care how many foals the stud has will not. It's not worth it for them when it greatly decreases the value of said foal when he's related to half of the horses of that breed in game. I rarely ever find studs I want through searches, as most horses just seem to never fit my criteria, and I usually have to advertise for them.

Elegant, basically because I don't have to. I've always been able to find suitable studs for $10k or less. I don't go by the 10k/stats rule when I buy horses so I don't follow it when I look for studs either. I have my own pricing rules that I use.

I look for high stat public stud since I will only breed my mares at 20 and 6 days. So I can't afford a player not coming online to accept that day. I am willing to pay any price.
But since my mare is a driving Akhal teke, I will go as far as contacting others in order to breed her.

Last edited on 2017-03-08 at 02:53:42 by megansparrow

Preferably 20 years and something. Less than 5 foals, uncommon line.
When I use outside studs, it’s usually to get a desired gene/color. Stats and conformation isn’t that important, correct discipline and stat spread is however.

I don’t think the stud fees are off, I can pay good money for the right stud. However I find most studs to either have A. too many foals, or B. an overbred line.

Now I'm a fairly new user, but you might be interested anyways.

I got tempted into conformation breeding, so it's the first thing on my mind, picking a stallion with a high confo. Individual trades like Silverside Elite posts count as well. Trying to improve the lower ones on my mares.

Stats is important, but I'd rather use a younger/lower stat stud with higher confo. So far I've noticed that a high stat horse might add 50 more stats to a foal, but it's trainable. Though conformation can't be changed.

Oh - and I haven't paid a stud fee of $10,000 yet, so maybe it's the breed (Welsh) that they don't have the highest stud prices. But you won't even sell the foals for that amount it seems unreasonable to pay more.
Though if there's one for $1,000 and a slightly better one up for stud for $6,500, I will choose the better one.

As long as I breed for color - coat color modifiers.

While choosing stud for my non-colorful mare, the fanciest coat stallion have, the highest prize I'm willing to pay for it.
I usually look for homozygous stallions (eg. if I want to get Z allele to my herd, I'm looking at first into ZZ horses) to be sure that I'll get what I bred for but if I find one with much more higher stats, good conformation, much cheaper but heterozygous, I also may avail his stud offer.
I don't actually care about color itself (black, bay or chestnut based), he may be bay with double recessive Flaxen genes or sooty black - I just want my horses to have "colorful" (it's quite inadequate term for genotype but I'm sure you'll get the point :>) genotypes for breeding in order to own in future horses equally interesting in stats and colors.
Moreover I do care about stats and choose stallions and mares usually the same specialty, also, I'm looking for at least 52-55+ conformation stallions.

To be honest, prize doesn't really matter for me - If I find a "perfect" (in my opinion) stallion, I can pay for stud...much (much for me, please, consider that I'm still a newbie here and don't have millions EVDs :D). In some reasonable prize range, of course :>.

Ha, I don't do it much now but back when I used to breed to a public stud it was always pedigree and stats that came first. I prefer horses to be 16+, decent stats for generation but I will overlook stats if they have a nice pedigree. While I don't mind crossing lines, I do like to keep them as separate as possible unless crossing is the better option (only after grandparents though).

I don't breed to horses fed cubes or peppermints as I primarily show my horses and therefore appropriate non-speciality stats are a priority, this is really my main problem with studs I find are perfect in everything else BUT high in non-spec stats. I will take a lower statted stud with low non-specs and a longer pedigree over a second generation with higher stats but high non-specs. I also prefer less foals on a stallion but if he's the best option out of several then I will overlook the foal count if it's under 10. Colour and confo never really bothered me much, so they're always the last thing to consider if at all.

Personally I was struggling to stud decent horses out myself so I decided to drop my pricing to 50% of the overall stats x 10, since it's not like they're buying it lol. Especially since my horses are up for private stud since the age of 16 and bred once or twice (depends if the breed is struggling etc) to mares/players I find are suitable, so it's not a huge loss to me if it's going to turn a successful showing foal out of it. I'd much rather provide an affordable opportunity to produce a nice showing/breeding prospect (provided they're not massively overbred) than have inaccessible horses. If the stud is unlucky and doesn't get bred for whatever reason, I'll throw them up for public stud at higher price 19-20 years and take them down after 1-2 foals. I'm trying to be less picky with breedings but at the end of the day, I'd prefer a nice foal to be produced from my stock period.

if i use an outside stud, it will almost exclusively be a first generation, high-stat, great-color, good-confo and limited # breeding stallion. i'm willing to pay well for such a horse, and 150k+ is not uncommon.

that said, i breed outside very rarely.

i also stud out my mustangs fairly cheaply (mostly bc many are star of david lines and aren't worth much more regardless of their nice stats and color) for around 25-50k even if they've got stats of 100+

my personal lines are more expensive and i'm attached enough that i've studded outside with them maybe 4 times in 2+ years.