Breeding for Conformation (HELP WANTED!)

Loving all the interest in figuring out conf inheritance and ~science~. I have a few mares bred due tomorrow. I'll post the dam/sire stats and foal stats then. ;)

thanks for all the new data guys!
I'm going to try and see if there's some sort of formula once we have a few more :)

I have two due in a couple days :-)

Sire (Captain)

Head 47.00 Poor
Neck 74.00 Good
Withers 34.00 Poor
Back 26.00 Poor
Shoulders 89.00 Excellent
Legs 48.00 Poor
Knees 51.00 Good
Hooves 34.00 Poor
Average 50.38

Dam (Jonquil)

Head 44.00 Poor
Neck 47.00 Poor
Withers 61.00 Good
Back 57.00 Good
Shoulders 61.00 Good
Legs 69.00 Good
Knees 47.00 Poor
Hooves 45.00 Poor
Average 53.88


Foal (Ghst Spiderwort)

Head 48.60 Poor
Neck 52.79 Good
Withers 49.47 Poor
Back 32.41 Poor
Shoulders 80.58 Excellent
Legs 66.94 Good
Knees 50.11 Good
Hooves 37.00 Poor
Average 52.24

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Sire (Riptide)

Head 35.00 Poor
Neck 56.00 Good
Withers 83.00 Excellent
Back 96.00 Perfect
Shoulders 91.00 Excellent
Legs 71.00 Good
Knees 66.00 Good
Hooves 36.00 Poor
Average 66.75

Dam (Callie’s Ghost)

Head 97.00 Perfect
Neck 36.00 Poor
Withers 46.00 Poor
Back 95.00 Excellent
Shoulders 48.00 Poor
Legs 57.00 Good
Knees 58.00 Good
Hooves 45.00 Poor
Average 60.25

Foal (Ghst Undertow)

Head 76.37 Good
Neck 34.62 Poor
Withers 64.75 Good
Back 93.90 Excellent
Shoulders 75.91 Good
Legs 67.44 Good
Knees 62.35 Good
Hooves 37.00 Poor
Average 64.04

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Sire (Narwhal)

Head 51.00 Good
Neck 70.00 Good
Withers 86.00 Excellent
Back 78.00 Good
Shoulders 85.00 Excellent
Legs 77.00 Good
Knees 81.00 Excellent
Hooves 90.00 Excellent
Average 77.25

Dam (Zar’s Trixie)

Head 89.00 Excellent
Neck 46.00 Poor
Withers 98.00 Perfect
Back 27.00 Poor
Shoulders 98.00 Perfect
Legs 69.00 Good
Knees 63.00 Good
Hooves 44.00 Poor
Average 66.75


Foal (Ghst Goldenrod)

Head 61.32 Good
Neck 52.36 Good
Withers 85.73 Excellent
Back 53.15 Good
Shoulders 85.89 Excellent
Legs 75.76 Good
Knees 68.15 Good
Hooves 69.00 Good
Average 68.92

From what I've seen with my foals, I'm guessing that improving your horse over its lifetime will increase the overall conformation of the foal. I'm not sure if it's stats or points or a combination of the two. I've matched two horses that were in their teens, and their foal's conformation was greater than the average of the two. And I also bred a younger mare who happened to have the highest conformation of my herd, and that foal was a little lower than the average.

Foal
Conformation and Health
Head 27.29 Poor
Neck 53.89 Good
Withers 72.91 Good
Back 31.65 Poor
Shoulders 40.90 Poor
Legs 45.34 Poor
Knees 46.25 Poor
Hooves 45.00 Poor
Average 45.40

Sire
Conformation and Health
Head 28.00 Poor
Neck 49.00 Poor
Withers 42.00 Poor
Back 27.00 Poor
Shoulders 27.00 Poor
Legs 40.00 Poor
Knees 45.00 Poor
Hooves 87.00 Excellent
Average 43.13

Dam
Head 59.00 Good
Neck 90.00 Excellent
Withers 97.00 Perfect
Back 32.00 Poor
Shoulders 47.00 Poor
Legs 57.00 Good
Knees 58.00 Good
Hooves 26.00 Poor
Average 58.25

Note I paired these horses on the old version and followed through with the breeding because the Dam and Sire already had foals together and I didn't wanna mess with things too much.

I'm getting my first foals from breedings in the recode and so far I am having fabulous luck with high numbered conformation horses greatly improving the low ones. I still speculate that grandparents are entering the equation. I am only working with paints and have added in some foundation stock that are in the 53-58 % range. It will be interesting to see how many generations it takes to get to the 90% range. I have several stallions with 95% or more stats who also had 6P parents.

this is great information! thanks everyone!
now i have to go back and look at my pairs and repair them..

So what's our conclusion here? Some amount of grandparents + more parents = slightly average foal?

we don't know yet, winguard. we'll need more data and multiple generations to be sure of anything, and that doesn't account for things like care, grooming, etc.

@_@ OK.... So we could have a club for this then. So we can keep up with each other, post theories, and figure it out together....

Someone ought to get on that XD

I am willing to part ways with 50K.

What do people think about "For the Well Conformed" (Kind a play on being well informed as well !).

I think that's a fantastic name!

I'm all for that :D

Conf Breeders Club - For the Well Conformed

:)