Pedigree Lines

I have a few mares now that are showing "Deceased" in their lines. Are these now considered "broken lines"? Does this bother anyone else? What are everyone's opinions on this subject?

Yes, they're broken.
Bothers me and I won't buy horses with a broken pedigree.

I hate broken lines, however because people have no control over this. I'm going to be forgiving of horses who were imported in and have this problem. The more horses missing in a pedigree though the more unlikely I will be to buy or request a breeding from that horse. I have one horse myself who imported in with Deceased in her lines, I'm always very careful about my lines so it is sad ;-;

I personally don't care about it, but the majority of the game does. Sadly this means I have locked away all mine who imported broken. A shame really as they had great colors and good stats.

_ Some of the deceased on import were horses that died of neglect, but were not deleted for some time and deleted on import. Some others they SHOULD have had clean lines (died over 21 in good care in known stables). I am holding out hope the latter's lineage just needs to import over. :P

Last edited on 2016-02-17 at 17:03:00 by Årty- Minis

That was my sinking suspicion :( This makes me unbearably sad!

I have a few mares that have both parents showing as deceased. I might treat those just like "foundation" lines... what do we think about that?

why does it bother players?
im just really curious in this, any particular reason?

People being nitpicky, really. It makes about the same sense as not buying a horse with uneven lines.

Quite frankly, it doesn't bother me in the least bit. I'm only interested in: 1. the horse having similar to higher stats than my own horses and 2. can be bred to my own horses.

It bothers me a little bit, because I really enjoy the little touches of realism. For instance, my friend Catherine can track back her Arabian horses so, so far it's mind-boggling. Telling me about their relatives that survived WW2 and I'm gawping.

You know, I'm a rabbit breeder though. In the ARBA, your rabbit doesn't have to be pedigreed to show. It just has to meet the breed standard and have no DQs. On the other hand, only pedigreed to three generation rabbits can be registered. Luckily this is pretty easy to do with quick rabbit life cycles. Within a couple of years, my herd should all be pedigreed and have longer pedigrees than most rabbits considering I'm so weird about keeping up with data.

So I'm all right with having horses with broken lines and "repairing" them with a few generations of breeding, just because this game moves so quickly. I'd never buy an unpedigreed or partially pedigreed horse IRL unless it was a rescue just for a pet though. No need to fund the Canadian and Mexican slaughterhouses.

I think if the owner converts to the recode all the horses will come too, and start showing up in pedigrees. In real life the color breeds like Appaloosas were created from foundation stock that had no known parents, they only had to have proof of breed characteristics.

I personally don't buy or breed horses with uneven lines ;)

However I do have good reason for this and it is that horses that have uneven lines will often have lower stats (because store-crossing, breeding lined or pedigreed horses to store horses automatically limits the stats a horses can reach). I'm willing to make exceptions to this rule, if the horses are of equal stats and breeding them will not hurt my the foals stats. I also think it looks nicer, but maybe that isn't a valid reason for other players. I will allow other players to get breedings from my horses if their lines are uneven, if their horses are within a certain stat range of my horse.

Broken lines are annoying when you're trying to go through a pedigree and check for inbreeding. Also players can try "hiding" inbreeding by deleting a few generations of their horses, suddenly other players are unable to navigate past a certain point in the pedigree which isn't desirable. I'm much more forgiving of broken lines than many other players, if there aren't too many missing horses I'm okay with it.

However I'll admit that if the pedigree is longer than 2-3 pages I will not buy the horse; because I'd rather not have to dig through pages of pedigree just to eventually find inbreeding. (What can I say I'm lazy about certain things) I will make an exception if I know the breeder is strictly against inbreeding, because then I feel certain that they've already checked the lines and found them to be clean. Aggie is lazy :p

With all that said, I think it's important to remember that many players don't care about these things at all. Some players just want good confo and don't care about stats, others want stats above anything else, some players want to challenge themselves by creating arbitrary rules to obey when they breed; however that is what makes Equiverse awesome there is no "right" way to play it. You get to create your own breeding goals and then work hard to succeed at them. I'm sure that you'll be able to stud or brood your horses even with "broken" pedigrees. :)

Last edited on 2016-02-17 at 22:07:33 by Aɢʟᴇᴛ

I am one of the few who don't give a carps scaly butt jiggles about broken lines.

obviously in real life, i'd be concerned about inbreeding (I'm also a little lax here on game) but things like this don't really bother me IF it isn't a brother to sister/father to daughter/ mother to son/ grandmother to grandson. usually a close relationship is not acceptable to me to be bred to.

though with that said? I keep my lines USUALLY to myself when i breed horses. i keep the foals. for myself. i dont sell them unless i know they're impeccably clean because of the pickiness jk the preferences on others. Due to me keeping my higher statted foals, i considered in the old version breeding a brother to sister because NOBODY had a suitable match for them stat wise, which is what i go for. i go for stats alone. did i breed them? no i decided a much better route. Lock them and then breed them when i get a suitable match for them ;]

I really don't care about broken lines. Or even inbreeding, for that matter, so long as it's not rampant.

Like Kylo Ren, I keep my lines mostly to myself anyway.

I'm thinking that much past what shows on the pedigree page is unimportant. That being said, I'm keeping what I have and working with it even if the recode suggests broken lines. Mine were clean prior to the recode although I have to admit I seldom researched all the way back on pedigrees.

This is how I roll: when I had to switch some horses' breeds, I made them into a simaler breed. For instance: a Knabby into an Appy. So hopefully others did the same so that if anyone had their lines leading to my horse or his perents, they would still all be the same breed ^_^