Let's figure out the breeding formula

Hi guys! I'm trying to put together another foal stat prediction calculator and need some help working out the details of the breeding formula. I have some theories I need to test, and for that I need to see the results of lots of different breedings, so I'm putting out a call for you all to share your breeding records.

What I need from you:
- stats of the sire and dam at the time of breeding
- birth stats of the sire and dam
- birth stats of their foal
Just copy and paste all the parents' individual stats into a post here when you breed them, then do the same with their foal when it's born.
It is very important that I know the exact parent stats when they're bred, not later, when their stats have increased further, as this will distort my results and create errors.

I am especially keen to see a wide range of different breedings, such as:
- breedings between store horses
- breedings between 2nd generation horses
- breedings between long lined horses, e.g. 10th generation
- breedings between a very high statted horse and a very low statted horse
- breedings between horses in different disciplines (i.e. their speciality stats are in different areas)
- identical twins (i.e. when you breed a pair of horses, then use credit items to birth the foal immediately and then breed the same pair of horses immediately so that both foals are the product of the same parents with the same stats.)

Preliminary Results
Your data has been giving me a great idea of what contributes to the foal stats and what doesn't, so although my work isn't complete yet, I do have some good findings to share with you which I hope you find useful for planning future breedings:
- Discipline-specific stats seem to get a small bonus. A horse with no discipline set will not get this bonus.
- Birth stats play a major role! If you're not already documenting all individual birth stats I highly recommend you start, as you'll need this information later.
- There probably is not a random factor included in the breeding formula, which means things will be predictable.
- Foundation horses seem to get a small breeding bonus, so starting new lines or outcrossing to new blood doesn't carry as severe a penalty as the relatively low stats would suggest.

Last edited on 2016-09-10 at 04:53:26 by UlyssesBlue (spare)

I'll do this when my next breeding is due :)

Awesome. Thanks!

Me too, I'll have probably a good three dozen pairings for you in the upcoming weeks. :)

Wonderful news, Ducky! Thanks for your help. :D

That's so cool you want to do such thing UB! I may be able to help you too! :)

Awesome! Every little bit helps. The more data I can get, the more accurate it will be. :D

I've got a bunch of breedings scheduled starting Oct 1, spread out into November. A couple have pedigrees, most are stores. Should help!

And I'll do at least one identical twin thing for the sake of your research.

Last edited on 2016-08-24 at 09:43:44 by Owlish Olive

Just bred this pair today (so sad they didn't reach 1k). Will edit with foals stats when it's born

SIRE (Draco)
STR: 8
SPD: 24
AGI: 446
INT: 447
END: 15
ALL: 940

DAM (Hermione)
STR: 18
SPD: 32
AGI: 419
INT: 419
END: 16
ALL: 904

FOAL
STR: 5
SPD: 13
AGI: 236
INT: 237
END: 7
ALL: 498

Wow good luck figuring it out. I bet foundation horses will be easier to notice a pattern, because I think generations some how affect it?

Last edited on 2016-08-29 at 09:33:57 by ✎ Jezarae

❖ Qlassic (sire)
STR: 9
SPD: 314
AGI: 255
INT: 8
END: 8
ALL: 594

❖ Jolie Marseille (dam)
STR: 11
SPD: 231
AGI: 199
INT: 19
END: 10
ALL: 470


I'll edit this post with information about my foal soon :)

I've given my mare a Gestation Rush, and here's a result:

FOAL
STR: 8
SPD: 231
AGI: 186
INT: 12
END: 7
ALL: 444

Last edited on 2016-08-25 at 01:19:25 by Anais

thanks so much guys! can't wait to see the results!

Sire:
ϟ RHAPSODY GONE BLUE (#447719)
STR: 24
SPD: 296
AGI: 17
INT: 301
END: 19
ALL: 657
(eta: sire was locked either yesterday or today - not mine so I'm not certain which, his stats haven't changed since I bred to him though)

Dam:
Raggedy Ann (#447576)
STR: 17
SPD: 342
AGI: 24
INT: 315
END: 20
ALL: 718

ETA the foal:--
Amber Boy(blue eyes) (#505844)
STR: 20
SPD: 165
AGI: 19
INT: 158
END: 19
ALL: 381

---

ETA a pedigreed pair--

Sire:
Stop Screaming (#448316)
STR: 0
SPD: 4
AGI: 788
INT: 784
END: 0
ALL: 1576

Dam:
Empress (#453465)
STR: 6
SPD: 8
AGI: 568
INT: 564
END: 6
ALL: 1152

ETA the foal:
Screaming Empress (#505842)
STR: 2
SPD: 3
AGI: 407
INT: 407
END: 2
ALL: 821

Last edited on 2016-08-29 at 12:12:08 by Rising Dawn

Sire: •Vlad the Impaler 58.75 (FOUNDATION)
STR: 340 +101
SPD: 20 +26
AGI: 15 +26
INT: 22 +26
END: 329 +101
ALL: 726

Dam: •Vampira 59.75 (FOUNDATION)
STR: 349 +101
SPD: 17 +26
AGI: 24 +26
INT: 14 +26
END: 347 +101
ALL: 751

FOAL:
STR: 178
SPD: 18
AGI: 19
INT: 18
END: 174
ALL: 407

Last edited on 2016-08-29 at 06:36:04 by Ducky

Sire: Black Water Pearl
STR: 9
SPD: 99
AGI: 7
INT: 80
END: 9
ALL: 204

Dam: GreyShadow
STR: 17 +6
SPD: 26 +31
AGI: 19 +6
INT: 24 +31
END: 22 +6
ALL: 108

Foal: New Foal
STR: 13
SPD: 61
AGI: 13
INT: 51
END: 15
ALL: 153

Last edited on 2016-08-29 at 21:50:07 by PurpleMagic

Thanks guys! This is very helpful. :D