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Using alleles to "add" in dilute/mod variety

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Using alleles to "add" in dilute/mod variety

#237970 Posted on 2021-04-08 17:04:42

[ suggestion for updating dun / cream coats ]
[ suggestion for layering coats to add variations ]

SO I was doing some digging around and found some neat stuff, and the newest news post gave me an idea!

from the news article:
*Added opacity difference between PP and Pp dominances for the pangare marking (previously there was no visual difference)



The suggestion:
use the hetero and homozygous alleles to add in "different" variations of the bases for different genes/combos using the pre-existing base art and layering it (akin to the varied base coat suggestion).
Disclaimer: I know that's not how genes work IRL, but this is a game so XD ya kno.

For example:
Β for EE/aa/nD have the dun art layer lowered (maybe slightly darkened at points) to look like a "dark grullo"
while Ee/aa/nD have a slightly lighter dun art layer slightly lighter and look more like a "standard grullo".
etc.etc.etc.

We already have
gene specific combos for white patterns, I don't think it would be "too" hard to implement colour mixing for allele specific combos (like ee/AA/ff) display as a "deep liver flaxen" while (ee/Aa/ff) and (ee/aa/ff) displays as a "regular" flaxen.

I'm not going to dig through and fuss with the art, because the original suggestion displays it quite succinctly, and it also does touch on other options for dilutions/modifiers. However, it uses kind of a heredity system for how coats pass, which I think might be a bit clunky to implement for the payoff? You could tie the specific "variations" to specific genotypes, so that basically ee/aa chestnut, can have a % to pull (for example) like 5 shades of "base" chestnut, each with a % chance (just like how confo is rolled) it would be a simple rng% without the added maths and whatnot, simple to implement and add some variety. It would also be super easy to make someΒ of the coats "more rare" for each of the combinations, adding a little bit of an extra surprise!

I think it would be a huge win for new variety and simplicity, without requiring a huge overhaul or brand new genetic system.

Β However,
I am also of the opinion that some of the breeds absolutely need their art updated to better match the style of the "newer" breeds (paints come to mind).




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#237971 Posted on 2021-04-08 17:20:06

I think this would add some interest for the players who specifically breed for color. It would make the pretties that much prettier.


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#237973 Posted on 2021-04-08 17:32:01

I am definitely one who breeds for the pretty color in combination with the stats, and I would love if this suggestion could be implemented in the future.

I also noted your comment that some breeds need their art updated to match the style of the rest of the art, as I agree. I was working with the TWHs today on my other account and remembered why I had locked them up in 2018 and forgotten about them... while I adore the breed art and shading for that breed, the patterning for the tobiano and sabino and overo needs work. I dislike the breed because of the way those markings were done. I recall a few breeds had this look to their patterning when the beta version was going to come out, but were fixed up. Too bad the TWH wasn't -- would be awesome to see that cleaned up on that particular breed, too.


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#237974 Posted on 2021-04-08 17:34:34

(I believe the ... creative... tobiano is being updated for all of the breeds if, I am not mistaken)

from discord:



They are getting the same tobi pattern most other breeds have.

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#237976 Posted on 2021-04-08 17:42:07

GOOD.Β 
"Creative tobiano" is one way to put it hah


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#246951 Posted on 2021-08-27 08:50:33

For tobiano updates: not confirmed but are being looked into. Please don't take this as absolute confirmation of a marking update. (Also what's wrong with Paints? They were the last batch to be done)


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#246972 Posted on 2021-08-27 19:47:24

I realized it was worded poorly in the original post, but I meant that some of the breeds needed to be updated to more match the style of paints (as an example) since they're one of the more prettier ones in terms of art and coat colours.


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