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#117349 Posted on 2017-08-10 07:55:38

Hello! The ECA is an organization that registers horses based on if they qualify for color. It is a new club, Club ID 100, and I am looking for members! Features will be bought off of my personal funds. Hope to see you soon!

Gene Allowences: (A single allele, for ex. Cr, means both Crcr and CrCr are expected. For two alleles, such as SpSp, means only Full Splash is allowed)  Cr, D, Ch, At, ff, ZZ, RnRn, W, RbRb, Oo, SpSp, SbSb Mix Paints: ex. TT SpSp, T+ SpSp, etc.

Gene exceptions differ for different breeds

(Allowences are subject to change)

I am currently looking for admins to help me manage the club, feel free to ask if you can become apart of the team! 

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#117447 Posted on 2017-08-10 17:43:38

More information: 

Registry Requirements are fairly low. If you wanted to register a horse, it must have a combination of a rare coat color and a marking that isn't very common. For more info, PM me. I won't be looking for admins at this moment but at a later time. 


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#117449 Posted on 2017-08-10 17:52:50

Nevermind

I got it

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#118005 Posted on 2017-08-15 16:10:18

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#118054 Posted on 2017-08-16 03:44:35

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#118113 Posted on 2017-08-16 12:32:50

The ECA is looking for admins! Is anyone interested?

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#118203 Posted on 2017-08-17 19:31:45

I'm confused about the requirements- what you mean exactly by "gene exceptions".

I assumed you mean horses have to have one of these genes.

Gene exceptions: (A single allele, for ex. Cr, means both Crcr and CrCr are expected. For two alleles, such as SpSp, means only Full Splash is allowed)  Cr, D, Ch, At, F, ZZ, RnRn, W, RbRb, Oo, SpSp, SbSb

What I read that as:

Heterozygous cream, dun, and champagne but only homozygous silver.
No flaxen.
Homozygous roan and sabino (=> no Roan Sabino, Tobiano Roan, Tobiano Sabino)
Homozygous splash.


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#118205 Posted on 2017-08-17 19:36:10

Almare does have a good question.

I'd also like to ask a question. See, I breed/train Akhal-Tekes, so are Tekes with Sbsb + Rbrb allowed? As long as the Teke has both markings will that be acceptable? Or do they have to have at least one of them homozygous?


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#118206 Posted on 2017-08-17 19:55:21

Almare, Yes that is correct.

Here's my translation:
Cream, Duns, Champagnes, At (such as Seal brown), flaxen, and White are allowed of any kind (either heterozygous or homozygous) 
Only full silver, roan, rabicano, Oo overo, Splash, and sabino are allowed 

Answering both yours and RemRem's question,
Mix Paints such as Tobiano Splash can have Tobiano and Splash as both heterozygous (T+ and Spsp)
It also comes into the scenario that mix Paints are rarer than flat outs most of the time, hence, they are accepted because of the gene mix. If that makes sense.

Yes; those can be allowed. The two heterozygous balance each other and "create" homozygous in a sense. 

Just restating, they would be allowed anyway because of the appearance.

I added the gene requirements for mostly horses with non-rare colors such as chestnut. 


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#118208 Posted on 2017-08-17 21:16:43

Flaxen is recessive so ff is flaxen and Ff/FF non-flaxen.

If seal brown At is allowed, what about wild bay A+?

Is there a particular reason that silver is only allowed in homozygous form when the other dilutions are allowed in heterozygous form?


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#118211 Posted on 2017-08-17 22:39:46

Whoops, sorry I'm not the best at genetics.

I can add that; but the group is not based on what I write down that's allowed. It's more for the prettier horses, not just 

ONLY THESE COLORS CAN BE ALLOWED

So more like how the horse looks 

Different dilutes change the color I believe, there so they can be heterozygous. For silver, there are less ZZ's than Zz, making that pattern rarer. There's about 60 pages of Zz horses and 10 of ZZ, so 1/7 of horses will Silver are ZZ


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#118213 Posted on 2017-08-17 23:08:23

Cream is incompletely dominant and has different phenotypes (physical colour) for Crcr and CrCr. Dun, Champagne, and Silver are all completely dominant and present the same for heterozygous and homozygous forms.

The rarity argument applies to all the dilutions:

DD 14 pages vs Dd 102 pages
CrCr 45 pages vs Crcr 172 pages
ChCh 4 pages vs Chch 42 pages


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#118214 Posted on 2017-08-18 00:03:48

Hm. It is true that colors of the horses can be the same whether homozygous or not. However, going back to that rarity thing, homozygous is much more rare than the corresponding heterozygous gene.


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